I'm reading 'Schoolstrijd' from Theo Engelen for my book report. It's a very nice book about school, full of tension. I like it a lot. I'm reading that book because we get a guest-lesson from Theo Engelen at school.



Tsuroerusu wrote:If audiobooks count, I plan on "reading" the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx one of these days.


Yellow Rayquaza wrote:Tsuroerusu wrote:If audiobooks count, I plan on "reading" the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx one of these days.
Now I got worried about the future of this forum.D (Just kidding.)


Tsuroerusu wrote:LOL, Comrade Marco (Hey that sounds kinda neat!) we shall look to the future!![]()
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Richard wrote:Tsuroerusu wrote:LOL, Comrade Marco (Hey that sounds kinda neat!) we shall look to the future!![]()
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In Soviet Russia, future look to you.


Richard wrote:Well, I can nothing but agree with your ideals, though I have problems seeing Communism work in reality... But that is a different story entirely.
Socialism builds on the aspirations of the Enlightenment, so succinctly contained in the slogan of liberty, fraternity and equality. But it recognizes that genuine freedom is only possible on the basis of genuine social equality. This does not mean that everyone has to be equal in every respect (which is what I thought socialism was about when I was 14) – even if we wanted it [which i don't think most of us do], such a thing is impossible.
What it does mean is that the rights of society and of the people as a whole have to supersede the rights of individuals to accumulate unlimited amounts of wealth and power.


Richard wrote:And this is why I rarely ever debate politics with someone who really knows what they are talking about... They often end up winning in a debate against me.
No, but it also means that lots of labour that could have been used in its own country ends up heading for India, China or some other country where no such equalities exist - India is an extreme example, actually. About 1 % of the people in India are extremely wealthy, the rest are living in filth. And if those with money are not forced to sharing with those who do not have as much, it will never even out. And so, those with large amounts finances in the more wealthy European countries, for example, can just move their factories and house over there, because no one in India forces them to share their wealth.
And so, workspaces are lost in those countries, and we are forced to raise the taxes again...
What I am trying to say is, that socialism only works, if it is applied to everything in general. otherwise, people can just move (Which, sad as it is, actually hurts the economy).

