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5th gen metagame

Postby Mew » 23 Nov 2010, 18:16

What do you think/expect of the 5th gen metagame? do you think the previous Ubers (Deoxys, Lati@s) will spam the OU tier because they belong there (or not) or will Pokemon like Ononokusu and Shanderaa rule the standard tier?

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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Pokelol » 23 Nov 2010, 18:23

Weather teams will be everywhere, with that stupid mole (Doryuuzu) on every Sandstorm team.

I also think, that every team in NU/UU (If Ninetales and Politoed will stay there) will be a weather team.

All in all, Weather teams will be used too much :/

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I think that Manaphy will be Uber, due to the new Tail Glow effect (+3 instead of 2), and with Hydration in a Rain team.

Harvest Exeggcutor (Or whatever that thing is called) will be a cool thing to see around.

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I really can´t say much about a thing I don´t know about. Everything I have seen to G5, have been in videos on Youtube :/

I´m looking forward to the release ^^
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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Yellow Rayquaza » 23 Nov 2010, 18:34

You can play Gen 5 on Pokémon Online.

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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Blue Cobra » 11 Mar 2011, 19:50

Well, first, i'm looking forward to a larger selection for OU pokemon. I think pokemons like Eelektross, Chandelure, Scolipede, Ferrothorn, Klinklang, Zoroark and Serperior will be used a lot in the OU tier, or UU if they aren't strong enough for OU.

Personal, i like Zoroark with it's ability Illusion. You can really cheat your opponent with that. And Serperior with perversity/leaf storm combo.
I like Scolipedes stats. It's good with some new powerful bug types.
I think that Ferrothorn will be a wall on many teams in the future.

I think a pokemon like Hydreigon will become uber, like most of the legendaries.

I hope that pokemons like Garchomp and Deoxys will stay uber, since they have really high stats compared to other pokes.
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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Pokelol » 11 Mar 2011, 21:27

Unlike you, I would like Deo-D and Deo-S to stay OU, or maybe even UU. Deo-S has piss poor defenses, and doesn´t do anything else than setting up hazards. Deo-D is a really great pokemon to use in this metagame. I use it a lot on PO.

Hydreigon won´t go Uber. He doesn´t have a high enough speed stat for that (98 is not high enough). Though he packs a good amount of power and very strong moves, it is not enough to make it good.

Serperior with Contrary is a great pokemon, netting +2 every time it uses its 140 Base Power STAB Attack. Though, it lacks the movepool. It has Leaf Storm, and needs to run a Hidden Power to get coverage.

There is really many pokes in the 5th gen, that lacks a good movepool. If they had the right movepool, they would be Top Tier.

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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Blue Cobra » 12 Mar 2011, 12:21

I just think that Hydreigons bulkiness and powerful attack is too much for the OU. It ishigh, compared to other pokes.
All Deoxys forms is uber in 4th generation, so why make such a big change for generation 5 to maybe put them in UU? I think they'll be too powerful in that tier.
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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Pokelol » 12 Mar 2011, 15:43

Deoxys-Attack and Deoxys-Normal form should stay Uber, to do their attack stat, but Defense and Speed form are getting outclassed in a way.

Almost every poke in gen 5 is a powerhouse, and those two Deo forms won´t stand a change against them. Deo-D is stall based, but stall is not working to perfection in this gen. Deo-Speed is only good at setting up hazards, but with its rather low defenses and 95 Special Attack, it won´t do anything. Most teams are Sandstorm, and Deo-S is getting owned by the Sand starters. If you run Spikes / Rocks / Filler / Filler on Deo-S, it is unlikely to be Ice Beam and Superpower for the filler moves, it will then have next to nothing to do against Hippowdon / Tyranitar. Deo-S is just Pursuit bait.
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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Blue Cobra » 13 Mar 2011, 14:39

If we take a look on the other ubers, Hydreigon is as strong as they are.
Yes, gen. 5 is full of powerhouses, but most of them has a weak point. for example, Druddigon has a really bad speed, Volcarona has a really bad defense, and Golurk has really bad speed too. But Hydreigon is very balanced in all stats, and i think it's too much for OU.
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Re: 5th gen metagame

Postby Pokelol » 13 Mar 2011, 15:50

Volcaronas real weakness is not its Defense, it´s its weakness to Stealth Rock; One of the most common moves in the metagame.

Golurk gets Rock Polish to better its speed stat. Druddigon is a slow thing. I don´t consider them OU material at all.

Hydreigon has a teasing speed; 98. Almost 100, but not quite. Also, its Dragon/Dark typing gives gim weaknesses to most of the common attack types. In this Gen, Wilechase made CB Ape popular. Technician Breloom with Mach Punch is a force to reckon. Conkeldurr is a top tier threat. Salamence is OU, Latias is OU, Latios is OU (Right now), Garchomp is OU. The thing, that you can see your opponents team before the match, makes it easier to counter things like Hydreigon. Your opponent will know, that you have Hydreigon and will save a counter for that pokemon for later in the game. Have in mind, that a Draco Meteor from Lati@s and Outrage from Salamence and Garchomp will hurt almost everything.
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